Many thanks for quoting me and addressing my comment:) Pity you have not elaborated more on the “Mul___o” issue.
One of my comments was:
"Any intelligent person trying to understand others’ perspectives could (have) guess(ed) that mentioning a mule, the hybrid offspring of a horse and a donkey, can be understood as offensive in a sensitive “debate” about racial inequalities. A mule is not an imperfection because one of the parents was a horse, but because the other parent was of “lower” race. "
Even if you say "My paper did not mention either this term or biracial people," it is so easy to make a connection between “There was the time he sold him a horse, but delivered a mule” and a mule being an imperfection because one of the parents was of "lower" race.
As I wrote previously, it was wrong to directly accuse of racism; however, in my view, this was an inappropriate analogy. It's pity no one picked it up before your review/commentary was sent to Roberts.
You also wrote "However, the origin of the term is actually not clear, with mule being only one of several possibilities. The term "mul___o" also possibly has Arabic, Portuguese, or Spanish origins unrelated to mules. It is also deemed offensive in some cultures but not in others."
However, as I understand your native language is English? The same page on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto) includes also this: "Mulatto is a racial classification to refer to people of mixed African and European ancestry. Its use is considered outdated and offensive in several languages, including ENGLISH and Dutch,..."
English... ;-) So please don't write this "It is also deemed offensive in some cultures but not in others." as you use a language in which this term "is considered outdated and offensive."
Feb 12, 2023·edited Feb 16, 2023Liked by Lee Jussim
I think it is the mule who has really been harmed. After all, people say things like "you're as stubborn as a mule!" or "don't be a jackass!", implying that the person they are speaking to is being difficult or stupid by comparing him or her to a mule. Whereas a mule isn't stubborn or stupid, it is just a mule. How insulting to the mule!
But in all seriousness, what is really alarming is not that this Roberts person is engaging in extreme and fake virtue signaling, it is that 1400 people are mindlessly supporting it.
I am reminded of the feminist "rule of thumb" hoax. Feminists claim that it refers to some ancient rule that a husband was allowed to whip his wife as long as the instrument was not thicker than a man's thumb. No such rule has ever been found. Rather, the end joint of the thumb is approximately an inch, and one could get a rough measurement using thumbs.
But, victims need things to be outraged about. It's crucial to their victim identities.
This is depressing. If you need to explain yourself, you already lost the argument. I am not saying you could have written a better paper. It is just you are preaching to savages who are boiling the water and sharpening the knives. Maybe we should just put our faith into the governor of Florida who will reform and civilize them.
I’m old over 60 and white (yes it’s sad I have to include that descriptor) how is that related to this? Well growing up in the olden times of yore (ha ha) we used a common phrase all the time. Whenever someone was being stubborn or hard headed or close minded we would say they are “mule headed” or “stubborn as a Missouri mule” it was a common turn of phrase. These cultural marxists don’t really care about racism in fact they don’t care about any of this, all they care about is power and control.
Many thanks for quoting me and addressing my comment:) Pity you have not elaborated more on the “Mul___o” issue.
One of my comments was:
"Any intelligent person trying to understand others’ perspectives could (have) guess(ed) that mentioning a mule, the hybrid offspring of a horse and a donkey, can be understood as offensive in a sensitive “debate” about racial inequalities. A mule is not an imperfection because one of the parents was a horse, but because the other parent was of “lower” race. "
Even if you say "My paper did not mention either this term or biracial people," it is so easy to make a connection between “There was the time he sold him a horse, but delivered a mule” and a mule being an imperfection because one of the parents was of "lower" race.
As I wrote previously, it was wrong to directly accuse of racism; however, in my view, this was an inappropriate analogy. It's pity no one picked it up before your review/commentary was sent to Roberts.
You also wrote "However, the origin of the term is actually not clear, with mule being only one of several possibilities. The term "mul___o" also possibly has Arabic, Portuguese, or Spanish origins unrelated to mules. It is also deemed offensive in some cultures but not in others."
However, as I understand your native language is English? The same page on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto) includes also this: "Mulatto is a racial classification to refer to people of mixed African and European ancestry. Its use is considered outdated and offensive in several languages, including ENGLISH and Dutch,..."
English... ;-) So please don't write this "It is also deemed offensive in some cultures but not in others." as you use a language in which this term "is considered outdated and offensive."
Igor
I think it is the mule who has really been harmed. After all, people say things like "you're as stubborn as a mule!" or "don't be a jackass!", implying that the person they are speaking to is being difficult or stupid by comparing him or her to a mule. Whereas a mule isn't stubborn or stupid, it is just a mule. How insulting to the mule!
But in all seriousness, what is really alarming is not that this Roberts person is engaging in extreme and fake virtue signaling, it is that 1400 people are mindlessly supporting it.
I am reminded of the feminist "rule of thumb" hoax. Feminists claim that it refers to some ancient rule that a husband was allowed to whip his wife as long as the instrument was not thicker than a man's thumb. No such rule has ever been found. Rather, the end joint of the thumb is approximately an inch, and one could get a rough measurement using thumbs.
But, victims need things to be outraged about. It's crucial to their victim identities.
As informative as this is, you might have better responded to the fellow at first with "Now mules are racist? You're a jackass."
This is depressing. If you need to explain yourself, you already lost the argument. I am not saying you could have written a better paper. It is just you are preaching to savages who are boiling the water and sharpening the knives. Maybe we should just put our faith into the governor of Florida who will reform and civilize them.
I’m old over 60 and white (yes it’s sad I have to include that descriptor) how is that related to this? Well growing up in the olden times of yore (ha ha) we used a common phrase all the time. Whenever someone was being stubborn or hard headed or close minded we would say they are “mule headed” or “stubborn as a Missouri mule” it was a common turn of phrase. These cultural marxists don’t really care about racism in fact they don’t care about any of this, all they care about is power and control.
This whole business is absolutely stark raving bonkers.